Tournesol 🌻 (@tournesol)

solo @solonovamax@tech.lgbt

3mo

hey, can I get some feedback from some people who's native language is not english?

if you are reading a documentation website, which one would you prefer?

(I had to edit the poll to add the last option, but prior to editing it had 3 votes for "documentation in english")
(~~not going to edit the poll a 2nd time~~, but in your head replace "english" with "the original language". I just used "english" here because any documentation I would write would be in english)

mfw editing the post removed the poll results. there were 16 votes for "documentation in english"

Tournesol 🌻 @tournesol@peculiar.florist

3mo

@solonovamax machine translated can be useful for non-english speaker but it's nowhere good enough to be called translation. I'll see it as something easier to decrypt for them.
When I come about such french translations, I immediately notice as it never seem natural and a lot of concepts get lost if not just misunderstood by the phrasing

Major example are reddit auto translations are just aweful and I can't opt-out. But they are still ligeable, just you won't get the nuance, tone and sometimes correct meaning of the original post

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solo @solonovamax@tech.lgbt

3mo

@tournesol yeah, I speak french fluently as well (though not my native language), and it's just immediately obvious when smth is machine translated (and, like, french is not a particularly hard language to translate, all things considered)

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Tournesol 🌻 @tournesol@peculiar.florist

3mo

@solonovamax the strange thing is they got the spelling exactly right and that's the hardest part for humans x) so now I'm more at piece with a written piece with grammar errors as that reassures me a human wrote that

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solo @solonovamax@tech.lgbt

3mo

@tournesol I have been doing french since like pre-k, but istg verb conjugation always fucks me over

orally I sound quite similar to a native speaker, but for written stuff, it just always gets me

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solo @solonovamax@tech.lgbt

3mo

@tournesol well, "native speaker" being "native (quebec) speaker", which is very different from a native french speaker from france lol

Tournesol 🌻 @tournesol@peculiar.florist

3mo

@solonovamax that's still french |ostly the same in writing x}

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solo @solonovamax@tech.lgbt

3mo

@tournesol I mean, sometimes quebec french is more french than france french

Tournesol 🌻 @tournesol@peculiar.florist

3mo

@solonovamax yeah but isn't that mostly due to politics ? We always have a laugh at your movie names that are hilariously french !
My perception of it is that formal québecois is french to a fault but informal is more a mix french, english and local expressions

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solo @solonovamax@tech.lgbt

3mo

@tournesol yes, it most definitely is lol

the quebec french that the government wants you to use is much more "french" ("couriel" in quebec vs "email" in france), but then the french that people speak is much more informal (and like 50% english)