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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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Up next - @fedihost discussing Canadian Civil and how they used fediverse tools to build a funding platform - quickly! A peer tube instance.

site.canadiancivil.com
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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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"How to make toaster repair and reviews fascinating."

Comparing toaster content from PeerTube and YouTube, plus getting paid for that toaster content outside of YouTube.

Tell me more.
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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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YouTube adware is by far the largest funding offering for video content creators. But Patreon isn't far behind when you looked at Canadian Civil's audience specifically.
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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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Pateron offers private blogs, private RSS feeds and more. The content can be delivered both publicly and privately to specific groups of contributors.

Let's get Patreon incorporated into the fediverse!
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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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So far, not much interest from Patreon to do this. Should we setup an alternative? Some already exist.

crowdbucks.fund

comradery.co

ghost.org

And some have come and gone, like SubClub.
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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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PeerTube has recently added the ability to incorporate funding options into channels as well.
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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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Hey y'all stepping away for lunch (so it FediMTL) and I'll be back in about an hour.

Be sure to check out the
hashtag and the FediWall, too.

fediwall.social/?tags=fediMTL
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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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starting back up in about 5 minutes. Up next, "Rethinking the journalism model". Oooh it's in French. Hmm....
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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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I'm not going to pretend I can understand what is being said, but let me give you a background from the official FediMTL site for this discussion:

"A reflection on the future of journalism in the age of algorithms, exploring information sovereignty, media independence, and the transformation of news platforms."

I'm gonna try this live translation thing with my apple headphones.

The speaker is
@catouma
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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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Oh..live translations on iPhone is pretty cool. I need to learn how to use this better. Still not going to make comments and quotes until I feel more confident in how this works.
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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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@saskia from @newsmast up next.

Newsmast Foundation looks to provide organizations, groups and communities an introduction and onboarding to the Open Social Web. (Among other things like channel.org)
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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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Users looking for meaningful connections to other real people. Willing to look outside of large socials for that, moreso every day and with every new generation. Moving to smaller, more meaningful communities.
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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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Oh I really connect with this title "The Loneliness Rebellion" - love that.

Users are tired of screaming into a void, not being able to reach the people and topics they are interested in with ads and attention grabbers in the way.
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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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Survey of the normal people - "What is the fediverse?". Oh boy. We've got some work to do, y'all. Tho I'd love it if we were all part of an MCU plot.

Open Social fared a bit better than this.
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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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Not knowing exactly what the fediverse or open social web is - isn't a bad thing - we have a blank slate. That's a good thing.

How do we introduce normies to the fediverse?

The current fediverse culture isn't as welcoming. And there are UI issues that need to be addressed. Even small UI issues can push people away - an accidental posting of a private post to a public timeline for example.
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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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Newsmast is working on "apps for change", which hides the intricacies of the fediverse. Ah, Newsmast is working with @qlub

They provide not only an instance, but an app to go along with it - specifically designed for the community it serves. Pretty cool.

For each community they work with - the app and instance are specifically customized for their needs.

The app is published to the app stores through the community's developer accounts. Not owned by Newsmast.
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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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@newsmast is working with @Bonfire as a backend as well for their solutions. It's great to see this implementation in progress, I had heard of it before. Curious if they are using the Community flavor.
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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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From a Q&A: An important thing to note - as people try to find alternatives to large socials, it doesn't mean it HAS to be federated. Or perhaps just partially federated.

Newsmast is building according to the needs of their communities, and that doesn't always include federation.

There's a lot to say about local community instances. Not EVERYTHING needs to be federated.
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🪨 @Varpie@peculiar.florist
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@box464 I saw the other day a picture that summed it up pretty well: it was a comparison of centralized, federated and decentralized architectures. Unfortunately I can't remember where it was...
In the centralized one, there is one big circle in the middle (the server) and plenty of links pointing to small dots (the users).
In the federated one, there are "islands" of servers linked together, of different sizes. They aren't all connected to each other, so there can be single ones, smaller groups or a big land, so it kind of makes an archipelago. Local community instances could be like the smaller islands here.
In the decentralized one, each server is connected to everything else, so it is just one big mesh.
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Jeff @box464@mastodon.social
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@Varpie I think that might be the archipelago concept.

writer.oliphant.social/oliphant/the-archipelago-an-island-network-in-practice
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🪨 @Varpie@peculiar.florist
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@box464 It is the same principle, I saw that comparison as a diagram in a documentation website and I can't find it back, but I remember thinking that it was a neat comparison... I should use bookmarks for this kind of situation.
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