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Oblomov @oblomov@sociale.network
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Reading the latest Michael “mookie” Terracciano blog post on the migration to BS is almost painful

www.dominic-deegan.com/bluer-skies-ahead/
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Oblomov @oblomov@sociale.network
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Why painful? Because it has that mix of awareness and lack thereof that makes you feel like someone “got it”, but also “not really”. Faraway, so close.

I've been following mookiebean's “#TwitterExodus Odyssey” since the takeover by Musk for nazification purposes.

(Why him specifically? Because he was one if the few artists I followed on Twitter, and I've always felt he would find himself at home here.)
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Oblomov @oblomov@sociale.network
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This
sociale.network/@oblomov/109631715578028585
is a thread I wrote at the beginning of 2023, a couple of months after the peak of the first . At the time, he was among the wave of artists that gave that clusterfuck of Hive a chance, preferring it to Mastodon for the usual arguments of questionable validity (I'll get back to this later).

Still, you can see what I'm talking about when I mention the awareness also in the blog posts he wrote at the time, which I mention here sociale.network/@oblomov/109639149479790605
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Oblomov @oblomov@sociale.network
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Why do I say that the arguments are of questionable validity? Because when you read his most recent blog post about the migration to , you can see that most of those same points that were showstoppers for a migration to or the in general are now taken in stride, when not straight weighted as a positive.
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Oblomov @oblomov@sociale.network
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It's almost uncanny how the same characteristics are labelled by the same person as insurmountable obstacles in reference to a platform, and as a refreshing breath of clean air in reference to another.

The sad truth is that the assessments of the importance of these characteristics is not an objective evaluation, but more often than not is just part of the rationalization of a decision that has already been taken based on completely unrelated, be them conscious or unconscious, reasons.
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Oblomov @oblomov@sociale.network
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This is a surprisingly difficult argument to make on the , in large part because many people, even among those that prefer it to the commercial silos, have a tendency to read «that's not the reason why people don't come here» as «that's not an issue» and then proceed to fight that strawman, completely oblivious to the fact that something being an issue does but necessarily mean that it's the actual reason for not joining the Fediverse, even when brought forth as motivation.
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Oblomov @oblomov@sociale.network
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An argument could be made that if someone makes a claim about their reason for not joining the , or should be trusted: after all, who knows their reasons better than the person making the choice?

The thing is, this argument falls flat on its face pretty quickly. Even when people aren't flat out lying about their reasons, what they come up with to justify their choice to themselves often turns out to be inconsistent at best. Mookiebean's position is just one example of this.
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Oblomov @oblomov@sociale.network
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During the first , there was a hammering campaign around the absence of “quote boosts” as the critical reason. This, despite the fact that 1. QB is barely more than a fancy UI over “linking to a post from another post” 2. as such, it could already be done for the purported purposes that those advocating for it claimed to need it for 3. actual QB are available on platforms other than .
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Oblomov @oblomov@sociale.network
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Each and every time any of this was pointed out, it turned out that despite the original claims, QB was not, in fact, the reason for not joining the , but an excuse for hiding a much simpler fact: the Fediverse ethos and mechanisms are anti-viral, and this drives away clout chasers, people that have built their entire “social” persona on gaming the silo algorithms to garner attention.
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Oblomov @oblomov@sociale.network
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I'm not the only one who noticed that, see for example @_elena's post here mastodon.social/@_elena/113332435360449024
Even better, go to the OP here
mastodon.social/@mhoye/113332019246104828
and browse the whole thread —it's an excellent example of what I'm discussing here.
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Oblomov @oblomov@sociale.network
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Again, before anyone jumps in my mentions shouting «but the has real issues!!!111» —nobody is denying that. That's not really the point. The question is: are those issues really the main reason why people don't come here? And the answer is, by and large, no. For the most part, the main reason why people don't join the Fediverse is:

people go where people are

It's really as simple as that.
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Océane @oceane@peculiar.florist
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@oblomov But if they share actual resources people can make the travel once in a while to skim through their new entries. That's how most people read blogs.
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Oblomov @oblomov@sociale.network
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@oceane what?

(Sorry, I'm quite tired so I'm probably missing something obvious on how this connects with the post of mine it replies to.)
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Océane @oceane@peculiar.florist
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@oblomov Might be my own bad.

I understand that people may go to the most crowded aggregators, but personally I had the most interactions per blog post with honk and Gemini. I've had semi-regular interactions with famous bloggers (in my niche), skyjake had thanked me because he'd stumbled upon a bug on my i18n domain name, people would ask me how they could "install Gemini"…

So IMHO pushing for the weirdest stack could also be a winning strategy. In the context of a globally crappy web 2 stack, it may be more fulfilling (at least for me) to lead by the example and to gradually build a small but intentional community with the right tech™ than to almost directly start with a 4-figures, but distant Instagram audience.
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Oblomov @oblomov@sociale.network
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@oceane I think that's a separate albeit related effect, that a lot of people experience also here with the Fediverse, where the same post made here and in commercial silos sees much more interaction than on the commercial silo, even when they have more followers on the commercial silos. In this case, it's the usual “quantity vs quality”: there's more “humanity” in smaller groups than in large masses, which in an apparent paradox leads to more (and often better) interactions.
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Océane @oceane@peculiar.florist
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@oblomov Now that I think about it, your local influencer being reachable by 2 bn. users and tricked into being more abrasive by their platform may outweight the benefits of federating with about 700x more people.

honk and gemini users have the reputation of being smarter and more peaceful because they're only debilitated by a margin.
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