During a 2023 interview, Grimes recalled the last time she addressed Musk’s growing transphobia. “We had a big, long conversation,” she said. “I was like: ‘I want to dissect why you’re so stressed about this.’

“And it came down to pretty much every way that you transition can cause fertility issues,” she continued. “I was like, OK, you don’t hate trans people, you hate woke culture. I get that it can be annoying, and you have concerns about the fertility thing. So let’s figure it out, because there’s a lot of fertility tech that could be innovated that would help trans people have kids, which would be great and would solve a lot of problems. He’s just on Twitter, and he’s unhappy with woke people, and the arguments happened.”

Back then, she seemed much more defensive of Musk, even going so far as to repeat his false claim that transition leads to infertility. She may not be well educated on trans healthcare, but at least Grimes has given a much stronger statement against Musk’s nonsense this time around.